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Thanks for your answers, those who responded to my previous question. I am at home now, on my computer, old as it is, I'm used to it. (I borrowed a nifty littke EEE but it was impossible to type on without constant error.)

Anyway, it looks like there was nearly a consensus to stick Vidanric POV inserts at the end of any hypothetical redone edition of CD. And it is hypothetical. Vague interest was expressed, but I don't believe in that kind of thing (gratifying as it is at the time) unless it actually happens.

So I will write the last one or two of the inserts, but in the meantime, the thought of retyping this entire book (because the original computer files are long gone, having been done on a very old computer back in the early nineties, on PC-Write, a software that doesn't exist any more) is really, REALLY daunting. So this might just stall out unless there is a real need.

Other than that, I did get the go-ahead on Banner of the Damned and on Coronets and Steel, so I need to plunge into getting those going.

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estara
Oct. 10th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)
go-ahead on Banner of the Damned and on Coronets and Steel

Does that mean sold manuscript??

If so, YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!
sartorias
Oct. 10th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
No contract signed but offer made. *whew*
bookaddict88
Oct. 10th, 2009 06:57 pm (UTC)
That's SO exciting!

The thought of retyping this entire book (because the original computer files are long gone, having been done on a very old computer back in the early nineties, on PC-Write, a software that doesn't exist any more) is really, REALLY daunting.

I could help manually do this from my copy, if this goes through. I probably wouldn't have time to do the whole thing, but I could definitely help! You'd still have to go through and make any corrections you wanted, but that wouldn't take as long as retyping the whole thing.

Or actually maybe you could see if jeidai has the files? I know she made that beautiful handmade copy of the book.
estara
Oct. 10th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
I was wondering if scanning and having an ocr-software running over the pages wouldn't be faster. Or asking Firebird imprint if THEY kept a file of the book.
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estara
Oct. 11th, 2009 09:54 am (UTC)
Well, I never have scanned a whole book myself, but with typical info leaflets or articles from a magazine that are well type-set, I've found running an ocr and afterwards a spell checker to take less time, the more text I had.

I concur with your opinion that you'll still have misspellings that you have to read through afterwards, it's nowhere near perfect.
jade_sabre_301
Oct. 10th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
dittoing this offer of typing stuff up, if it comes down to you needing that sort of thing. :-)
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
I don't want anyone to have to go to that labor...I am seeking alternative methods. But thanks! You have already been way more than generous with your time.
estara
Oct. 10th, 2009 07:48 pm (UTC)
Still! *does schuhplattler*
sartorias
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:16 pm (UTC)
heh!
asakiyume
Oct. 10th, 2009 09:13 pm (UTC)
Congratulations! I'm very, very happy to hear it :-)
sartorias
Oct. 10th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
*g*

Now if I can just catch up on a serious sleep deficit, I'm good to go...
asakiyume
Oct. 10th, 2009 09:20 pm (UTC)
I want an icon that says "ask me about my sleep deficit"--which is to say, I totally feel for you.
yasmeensarah
Oct. 10th, 2009 07:39 pm (UTC)
I'm with bookaddict88....I'd help! Maybe if a bunch of people each do a couple of chapters, then all you'd have to do is proofread.
willow_41z
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
Over at Sounis we all took a few chapters to create the Readaloud. This could be a, uh... Type-in-Silence?
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:39 pm (UTC)
I hope to find a way around it...reading is soooo much less tedious than typing. But thanks!
k_10b
Oct. 14th, 2009 01:14 pm (UTC)
Kristin Cashore talked about using voice recognition software to read her drafts into the computer. Maybe ask her some questions about how she likes that process? and how it works?
sartorias
Oct. 14th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
Alas, that sofware is extremely beyond our budget--there are a couple dozen severely needed house repairs ahead of it in line for our diminishing resources.
k_10b
Oct. 14th, 2009 07:34 pm (UTC)
oh, yeah ... I hear that!
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:35 pm (UTC)
I am hoping to find a less work-intensive way around it. But thanks!
newsboyhat
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC)
Coronets and Steel sold! That is fantastic news! (...may I be so bold as to ask to whom? :D)

I agree with bookaddict and the rest--there must be an e-copy of Crown Duel somewhere, or you could ask for volunteers and we'd all claim certain chapters. :)
sartorias
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:17 pm (UTC)
It's to DAW as well.

I
m wondering how to make this easy...have to look about and see if anyone has a scanner.
newsboyhat
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
w00t! YAY DAW!

(makes a note to try to get a job at Penguin next year...)
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:40 pm (UTC)
Oh I WISH!
kith_koby
Oct. 10th, 2009 08:29 pm (UTC)
I join in with newsboyhat - I'm sure you'll find us willing to type up the chapters from our copies of the book.
Congratulations on the good news. Excuse me if I sound ignorant, but remind me what is Coronets and Steel?
On a related matter, is there a name for the third CJ book that can be revealed by now?
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:40 pm (UTC)
Coronets and Steel is a story in our world (but with magical overlay) that I ran through here to test, a couple years ago.
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:41 pm (UTC)
Oh, on third CJ book--I'm slowly working on it, though I suspect that Norilana is backed up with work right now, and it will probably be delayed. Thank you for asking, though!
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:54 pm (UTC)
Oh, on third CJ book--I'm slowly working on it, though I suspect that Norilana is backed up with work right now, and it will probably be delayed. Thank you for asking, though!
longlegs21
Oct. 11th, 2009 03:10 am (UTC)
What great news! (This somehow feeds my hope that Slam Justice will find a home, too...)

I didn't know you had any other Vidanric scenes in mind--can't wait to read those!

Count me in on the typing party! That is, if it's needed. And if another person is needed.
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)
You have already done so very much, I think I need to find a way. But thanks! :-)
peanut13171
Oct. 11th, 2009 03:13 am (UTC)
Congratulations! That's great news. You can sign me up for a coupla chapters, too.
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:54 pm (UTC)
Thanks! I'm hoping for a way around it.
shadowsinfire
Oct. 11th, 2009 03:42 am (UTC)
Congrats on the go-ahead! Which one is Coronets and Steel?
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC)
Ruritanian one.
shadowsinfire
Oct. 11th, 2009 11:58 pm (UTC)
Cool.
thistleingrey
Oct. 11th, 2009 04:47 am (UTC)
One thing that tends to help with multiple-person typing jobs (speaking as someone who has post-processed the results of such outsourced contract jobs a few times, professionally, whee!) is to have two or three people type the same content. If there's enough of us (and I'm willing to contribute some time as well--I go about 90 WPM), then we could probably manage two people for most/all of the book. Then someone "runs a diff"--compares the results against each other, and looks for disparities; it is unusual statistically for 2+ typists to make exactly the same errors if they're moderately careful typists. And then, ideally, someone reads the way a proofreader would, to catch things that typists might indeed fudge (period for a comma, e.g., on either Qwerty or Dvorak layouts).

Maybe we're too enthusiastic for the level of confidence that a reprint project would have, but rekeying is totally feasible. The one thing is that a publisher might want to have someone prepare a simple release for all typist-volunteers to sign, saying that we know we're doing this for free and expect no recompense, or whatever the terms are....
thistleingrey
Oct. 11th, 2009 04:49 am (UTC)
That is, compares the results with computer aid. :P "diff" is actually a unix program that flags every single difference, including spaces; there are similar programs with easier-to-use interfaces. Anyhow.
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC)
That is really an imposition on the generosity of friends--I think I need to find a way around it, or just retype it all myself. But thanks!
thistleingrey
Oct. 11th, 2009 04:52 am (UTC)
Apparently I'm not reading carefully enough because I missed the Coronets and Steel part the first time. Yay! That is awesome. So is the news about Banner (!), but I did enjoy the draft of C&S you posted a while ago.
sartorias
Oct. 11th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)
Thanks!
jeidai
Oct. 12th, 2009 05:55 am (UTC)
I'd definitely be willing to give you the file I used to make the CD book! But it's an Adobe InDesign file, I don't know what format or program you want the text in, and how easy or hard it would be to convert it. :/ I hate to think of you typing up the whole book again. That was one option I was considering myself, before I got access to an OCR scanner (which at times wasn't good because it was a quick scan, but it got the job done), and I wasn't looking forward to it at all.
sartorias
Oct. 12th, 2009 12:57 pm (UTC)
I would love it. If one can "select all" and "copy" then the file could be dumped into an rtf. file. I hope. It would be perfect, because I could work with that, and make one more pass on the little errors.
jeidai
Oct. 15th, 2009 12:21 am (UTC)
All right, I managed to get an rtf file! Should I send it to the e-mail that I got the corrections from? At gmail?
sartorias
Oct. 15th, 2009 02:18 am (UTC)
You are TOTALLY AWESOME!!!!!

Yes--sartorias at gmail dot com.

Thank you!
chachic
Oct. 12th, 2009 07:31 am (UTC)
Congratulations! I'm looking forward to both Banner of the Damned and Coronets and Steel. And count me in on the typing!
sartorias
Oct. 12th, 2009 12:57 pm (UTC)
You are a sweetie--I hope that a scan will be possible. But thanks!
k_10b
Oct. 14th, 2009 01:18 pm (UTC)
yay! Banner of the Damned is a go! happy dance

If you end up with a corps of typing volunteers, count me in. Not fast, but mostly accurate. I also have mad proofreading skills, if you need help at that end. I know some other authors who have had success with OCR, though.
sartorias
Oct. 14th, 2009 05:13 pm (UTC)
Thanks! Keeping that in mind!
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